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The most important trend, I think, is the shift to the right among the under-30s. People generally don't get more liberal as they age. That would be my biggest worry if I were a Dem.

Admittedly, I teach in a business school in a deep red state. But I can definitely see it among my students. They roll their eyes at liberal pablum.

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I had to think about this for a while before commenting. And I do think there are some more signs besides what you mentioned.

I do think Trump is building a coalition that can last, this time. In his first term he was too trusting of some of the long-term Republicans in DC, including Ryan and McConnell. This time he is bringing in a bunch of people, many of them younger and many of them outsiders in DC culture. Even Kristi Noem, though she had served 4 terms in Congress, also spent 10 years in office in her home state, both in the state legislature and as governor.

Another interesting item--even in states Harris did win, her vote totals were less than Biden's--Trump gained votes even in places like NYC. I lived for 32 years in Indiana. If you look at the maps of the elections by county, it's nearly a solid-red state, with a few blue dots. Two of them are urban areas--Indianapolis and Gary/Hammond; the rest are college towns, dominated by Purdue, IU, and Notre Dame. But in the 2024 election, even Purdue's county went red.

And the Democrats are really floundering right now. They do not have anyone who can lead the party. Pelosi, Hoyer, and several others are old and feeble. Hakeem Jeffries could not control his people during Trump's address to Congress. Walz is trying to put himself back in the limelight, but it's not going well for him. Newsom has his fingerprints all over the mess from the fires in LA; He's trying to move to the center, but I doubt if he could win a national election now. Bernie Sanders is out campaigning with AOC; but he's older than Trump, and he's technically not even a Democrat. AOC--yes, she is younger; but she has never even run for a statewide office, much less a national one. I suspect her appeal is mostly limited to her own district.

There is another factor, and it's a historical parallel. There have been two previous times when a party got frozen out of the president's office. It happened to the Republicans after FDR beat Herbert Hoover in 1932; there wasn't another Republican president until Eisenhower was elected in 1952. And after Lincoln's election in 1860, there wasn't another Democrat president until Cleveland won in 1884.

There have been two previous times in US history when political parties broke up--the Federalists after the War of 1812, and the Whigs after the Mexican War. During my lifetime, the Democrats have built a coalition of what might be called "outgroups"--blacks, gays, Hispanics and lately, Arabs. But what if their groups don't get along that well? Clear back in the '70s, some blacks did not like the gays appropriating the language of the Civil Rights movement. I've seen evidence that a lot of Hispanics look down on the blacks. A lot of lesbians are not that happy with what the transgenders are doing to women's sports. And the embrace of Palestinians may not be going over that well with the Jews. And there's plenty of evidence that the blue-collar workers, the backbone of the party when I was growing up, are gone for good!!

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